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Now that development on the RISC OS browser front seems to be starting up again, we need to help the browser programmers identify bugs in their browsers so that we can all end up with a browser that can handle any site.

Of course many of the problems caused are due to ignorant web authors or the horrendous code produced by most "WYSIWYG" website generation programs, but a lot of the problems are still just down to the browser. For example, when testing this site on Oregano and Browse I discovered that the blue curvy graphic above the 'contents' column (on the left of this text) doesn't line up. This is due to bugs in the browsers' table rendering code.

To add a site to this list, simply fill in the details on the add site page.

Fresco

Version: all Problem site URL: http://www.jungle.com
Rather ropey JavaScript on this retailer's site makes Fresco (and some versions of Netscape) cry. Oregano is fine though, as they demonstrate in the screenshots on their site.
Submitted by Alasdair Bailey at: 23:12, 21/05/2000
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Version: Problem site URL: http://www.transweb.org
Page will not format properly. Recent change in layout, no problems with previous layouts. Same results with latest and previous WebsterXL. Told problem with MIE 4.xx
Submitted by John Evans, body@argonet.co.uk at: 08:15, 22/05/2000
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Version: 2.13 Problem site URL: http://www.cybervillage.co.uk/acorn/
Fresco can't navigate this site correctly.If I go to the url above and click on the HOTNET link on the column on the left and then click on Gaming and then use the BACK arrow icon in Frescos toolbar I should go back to the HOTNET section but I don't.
Submitted by Stuart Halliday at: 08:27, 22/05/2000
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Version: 2.13 Problem site URL: http://www.postofficecounters.co.uk
Enter description of the problem hereCrashes with a 'type 5' every time
Submitted by John Norris at: 10:54, 22/05/2000
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Version: 2.13 Problem site URL: http://www.lloydstsb.com
not allowing registration form to be sent.
Submitted by Gareth Timms at: 17:24, 22/05/2000
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Version: 2.13 Problem site URL: http://www.autotrader.co.uk
Hangs Fresco.
Submitted by Alasdair Yates at: 16:51, 23/05/2000
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Version: 2.13 Problem site URL: http://www.whatcar.co.uk
Fresco hangs after displaying some of that page.
Submitted by Alasdair Yates at: 16:52, 23/05/2000
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Version: 2.13 Problem site URL: http://www.superbike.it/
Enhanced version (javascript) has errors flaggedby Fresco.
Submitted by Pete Margetts at: 17:31, 23/05/2000
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Version: 2.13 Problem site URL: http://www.riscos.net, or practically ANY page.
Crashes with error 5, internal error.It seems to be effected badly by large tables and GIFS (especially ones that don't loop).or forms....:-(
Submitted by Andy at: 20:14, 23/05/2000
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Version: 2.13 Problem site URL: http://www.britannica.com
Simply states that browser is not IE5 or Netscape - refuses entry. Support desk simply state that they do not have the resources to support speciality browsers!
Submitted by Allen Oakes at: 20:59, 23/05/2000
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Version: 1.72 Problem site URL: http://palmtop.nl
First page loads OK, but most other pages seem to start loading then stop. Is this java or sth that this v of fresco doesn't have? Cant d/l the demo dictionary I need, altho did so a few months ago.
Submitted by PQ Blackburn at: 20:57, 28/05/2000
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Version: 2.13 Problem site URL: http://www.mcafee.com/
Fresco can't display the new McAfee site at all, and after a few goes crashes (type=1).
Submitted by Flipside Web Design at: 08:43, 30/05/2000
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Version: 2.13 Problem site URL: http://www.scarletpixel.com
At the top of this page the UK lottery results are displayed. Fresco does not pull in the draw number and date into the text field above the lottery balls. However, if you re-load the frame it then does so. This page works OK with Webster and Oregano.
Submitted by Turbo at: 09:19, 30/05/2000
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Version: 2.13 Problem site URL: http://www.lloydstsb.co.uk
Further to previous comment. Registration can be done via PC with more recent verions of Netscape (4.05 and above). After that can access account using RiscPC and Fresco 2.13
Submitted by Gareth at: 18:45, 1/06/2000
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Version: 2.13 Problem site URL: http://www.deja.com/
Javascript errors reported. When searching their USENET section you can navigate through a thread. But Deja seems to not like Fresco users clicking on the Next thread link. It says its empty.
Submitted by Stuart Halliday at: 16:27, 7/06/2000
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Version: 2.13 Problem site URL: http://www.fabland.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/sun_and_cloud/
Usually gets "Type=5" errors when loading the images, but at other times will load the page with no problem.
Submitted by Robert Hampton at: 13:08, 8/06/2000
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Version: ? Problem site URL: http://www.go-fly.com
[Version used was the one embedded in the Bush Internet set-top box] Browser hangs when trying to display this page (just a blank screen shown). I think the Javascript is confusing it. Page works OK in IE5. Interestingly if you enter the specific URL of a go-fly child page it seems to work OK.
Submitted by Andy Colin at: 12:07, 25/04/2001
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Version: Problem site URL: http://www.halifaxonline.co.uk
Submitted by at: 13:38, 23/12/2001
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Version: Problem site URL: http://
my icon bar has disappeared. It was big across the page but know I just have the address bar. Please help.
Submitted by amy at: 18:15, 12/01/2002
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Version: Problem site URL: http://www.satisnet.com
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Submitted by Satisnet at: 13:18, 5/02/2005
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Version: Problem site URL: http://
Submitted by at: 11:42, 12/02/2005
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Version: Problem site URL: http://www.satisnet.com
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Submitted by Satisnet at: 00:33, 23/03/2005
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Version: Problem site URL: http://www.satisnet.com
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Submitted by Satisnet at: 20:15, 6/06/2005
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Version: links@vietnamparadisetravel.com Problem site URL: http://www.vietnamparadisetravel.com
Vietnam tours operator, vietnam hotels reservation, vietnam resorts reservation, vietnam ticket, property & car rental...
Submitted by Van Hai at: 23:28, 18/06/2005
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Oregano

Version: 1.02 Problem site URL: http://www.tescodirect.com
This is Tesco's shopping site. Logging in is OKbut the next page just hangs Oregano completely.
Submitted by Nick Riley at: 19:32, 21/05/2000
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Version: 1.02 Problem site URL: http://www.iconbar.com
Messes up the table formatting.
Submitted by David Barrow at: 09:19, 22/05/2000
 
Response from Oregan: it doesn't
 

Version: 1.02 Problem site URL: http://www.cd-wow.com
Unable to order cds using the add to cart button, same problem with fresco
Submitted by kev simpson at: 21:12, 22/05/2000
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Version: 1.02 Problem site URL: http://www.barclaycard.co.uk
One can get as far as entering Account No and PIN here - that's a lot further than with any other RISC OS browser! However, after this, clicking on logon prduces a "save box" with a file called xcgi. Examining this as a text file, it is an apology file in Javascript, saying that for some reason, the Browser can't access the site.
Submitted by Carl Pfeiffer at: 21:56, 22/05/2000
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Version: 1.02 Problem site URL: http://www.lineone.net
Trying to join LineOne - JS popup window asks what CD you want, click Next, the name/address entry window briefly renders before Oregano just quits. Fustrating...
Submitted by Carl Pfeiffer at: 14:23, 27/05/2000
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Version: 1.02 Problem site URL: http://www.lottery.clara.net/lottery/rand.html
When you click the option to generate a random selection for either the National Lottery or Thunderball, the random selection does not appear. This page works OK with Fresco and Webster.
Submitted by Turbo at: 09:25, 30/05/2000
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Version: 1.02 Problem site URL: http://www.halifaxonline.co.uk
Although you can gain access to this secure banking site, you can only progress to the first account screen displaying your current balance. If you try to go any further you get an error message stating 'this service is currently unavailable', which it isn't, as it worked ok on a PC.
Submitted by Turbo at: 09:28, 30/05/2000
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Version: 1.03 Problem site URL: http://www.tomshardware.com
The browser goes into a fit of cycling on/off hourglass activity. Could be my imagination, but it seems to be a little better than 1.02, though it's still very much a problem.
Submitted by Sendu Bala at: 11:27, 4/06/2000
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Version: 1.03 Problem site URL: http://www.nationwide.co.uk
Home Banking page - Can log into this site - accepts all passwords/numbers but when get to account pages just sits there. The throbber 'throbs' for a bit and then stops. No accounts are displayed. So near yet so far!
Submitted by Nick Riley at: 22:04, 7/06/2000
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Version: 1.03 Problem site URL: http://www.tombola.co.uk/
The Java on this site doesn't work, using Acorn Java 0.76. It doesn't work with Browse either, which points to the Java being later than 1.0.2. Because Oregano doesn't display the loading messages it is difficult to say where the error actually occurs. It would be useful if Oregano could display these messages... and how much longer do we have to wait for Chockcino!!
Submitted by Brian Howlett at: 09:31, 11/06/2000
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Version: 1.03 Problem site URL: http://www.foggy.co.uk/
Oregano get's stuck on the left hand frame, only displaying half of it. Haven't had any similar problems with other browsers
Submitted by Foggy at: 14:55, 15/06/2000
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Version: 1.04 Problem site URL: http://www.ananova.com/
Unable to access above site using Oregano v1.04 (Browse loads it OK)
Submitted by Mike Morris at: 10:19, 24/06/2000
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Version: 1.04 Problem site URL: http://www.easyjet.com
Whilst at the "book online" page of easyjet.com, when I move the mouse pointer anywhere near a button labelled 'show prices' Oregano promptly exits, leaving the hourglass running. The site seems to rely heavily on Javascript, BTW. This fault is repeatable, does it every time (at least on my machine, SA RPC, RO 4.00).
Submitted by Mike Morris at: 23:24, 26/06/2000
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Version: 1.05 Problem site URL: http://www.easyjet.com
Moving the mouse pointer over the 'show prices' no longer crashes Oregano as it did in v1.04 - now it simply does nothing whatsoever, certainly doesn't show prices as it should.
Submitted by Mike Morris at: 17:53, 30/06/2000
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Version: 1.04 Problem site URL: http://www.freeserve.com
Unable to access above site with Oregano V1.04 Fresco ( ok ) Webster XL ( ok )
Submitted by Stephen Maxwell-Scott at: 23:16, 1/07/2000
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Version: 1.05 Problem site URL: http://www.bt.com/register/
Apparently due to BT's buggy Javascript, the 'I agree' / 'Disagree' buttons have no useful effect. This site does work, unsurprisingly, on M$IE
Submitted by Luke Bosman at: 21:05, 4/07/2000
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Version: 1.05 Problem site URL: http://www.prestonmethodism.org.uk/
The 'Last Updated' JavaScript does not work. It appears that Oregano does not support document.lastModified.
Submitted by Luke Bosman at: 21:09, 4/07/2000
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Version: 1.05(js) Problem site URL: http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~edges/frames.htm
The contents of the right hand frame aren't displaying at all, ie half the page is simply black. Works OK with Browse.
Submitted by Mike Morris at: 11:32, 23/07/2000
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Version: 1.10 (js) Problem site URL: http://www.natwest.com
Simply will not connect, sits and trys for a while and eventually timeouts
Submitted by Aidhean Campbell at: 12:10, 13/08/2000
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Version: 1.10 (js) Problem site URL: http://www.tescodirect.com
Trying to Register, get to step four 'Express Check-out' and will not go any further. The Javascript on the site seems to be a bit random the pages that work: javascript: dosubmit(); javascript:dosubmit() the one that doesn't javascript:dosubmit() huh?
Submitted by Aidhean Campbell at: 12:16, 13/08/2000
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Version: 1.1 Problem site URL: http://egg.com
On the registration page for the Egg Credit Card, it will not accept your date of birth, it just keeps comming back with 'invalid date format' even though it has been entered /exactly/ as requested.
Submitted by John Bailey at: 11:12, 7/10/2000
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Version: 1.10(js) Problem site URL: http://www.bootsphoto.com/gallery/membersphotos/
I'm unable to view my snapshots on www.bootsphoto.com - it seems the images aren't being fetched. The source of the page seems to contain quite a lot of Javascript.
Submitted by Mike Morris at: 12:12, 15/10/2000
 
Response from Oregan: I can't even find the site!
 

Version: 1.10 Problem site URL: http://www.argos.co.uk
Only accepts MSIE & Netscape. When faked to either one of them complains about lack of Cookies. Other site sites seem to manage Cookies with now difficulty. This is a company who sell Internet TVs.
Submitted by Malcolm Wells at: 21:35, 19/11/2000
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WebsterXL

Version: 1.95 Problem site URL: http://www.tescodirect.com
This is Tesco's internet shopping site. Logging in is OK but the next page only partially renders throwing up various Javascript errors.
Submitted by Nick Riley at: 19:36, 21/05/2000
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Version: 1.95 Problem site URL: http://www.uksharereg.com/easynn.html
Main frame is only about 20 OS units wide until Webster's "toggle window size" button is clicked.
Submitted by Chris Morison at: 08:31, 22/05/2000
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Version: 1.95 Problem site URL: http://mail.yahoo.co.uk
After entering username and password, data is exchanged for a bit and then the log-in screen is displayed again. No error messages, no nothing.
Submitted by Chris Morison at: 08:33, 22/05/2000
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Version: 1.95 Problem site URL: http://www.iconbar.com/
Messes up image positioning within tables (on left and right hand side, the 'joining' images do not work correctly)
Submitted by Tomislav Simnett at: 16:57, 22/05/2000
 
Response from Andrew Pullman: Unfortunately image alignment still required some adjustment when this version was created. There is another version expected soon (it has already been sent to beta testers) that corrects these alignment problems.
 

Version: 1.95 Problem site URL: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=PubMed
This is the entry point to PubMed, a freely available database of Biological and Medical Litterature. There is no response on clicking the GO button after entering a search term. CLEAR works however.
Submitted by Raymond Cox at: 20:17, 22/05/2000
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Version: 1.95 Problem site URL: http://www.vigay.com
The Javascript version of this hompeage produces error after error - if you've got "beep on JS error" ticked, then as you roll-over the links you'll hear beep after beep! Works fine on Oregano
Submitted by Carl Pfeiffer at: 21:54, 22/05/2000
 
Response from Andrew Pullman: This page already works in the next version of WebsterXL (Currently with beta testers). This version is still in development but is expected to be released soon.
 

Version: 1.95 Problem site URL: http://www.artexsoft.com/
Table rendering is pants!
Submitted by Tomislav Simnett at: 00:41, 23/05/2000
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Version: 1.95 Problem site URL: http://www.icmessaging.co.uk
Cannot access the WebMail services. I just tried the demo of Oregano and it can! Pissed off!
Submitted by RobSimm at: 18:02, 23/05/2000
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Version: 1.95 Problem site URL: http://www.astuegrfx.demon.co.uk/cerilica
Although it looks ok most of the images are mis-aligned.
Submitted by RobSimm at: 08:36, 27/05/2000
 
Response from Andrew Pullman: Unfortunately image alignment still required some adjustment when this version was created. There is another version expected soon (already sent to beta testers) that corrects the alignment problems.
 

Version: 1.95 Problem site URL: http://www.specialized.com/
It just fails with a 'sorry, this method is not supported yet' error.
Submitted by Tomislav Simnett at: 04:18, 31/05/2000
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Version: All Problem site URL: http://www.nationwide.co.uk/
The SSL side of Nationwide's online banking is unavailable to all browsers unless they are IE or Navigator. Is it possible to contact Nationwide and ask why?
Submitted by James Gray at: 14:40, 31/05/2000
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Version: 1.95 Problem site URL: http://www.x-stream.co.uk
I use this free ISP on the PCCard, It's is a very complicated page but WXL just locks up the machine annd you have to al t-break to get out of it.
Submitted by Rob Simm at: 19:01, 3/06/2000
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Version: 1.95 Problem site URL: https://e-banking.abbeynational.co.uk
Site requires Netscape or IE version 4 or above. Does not recognise Webster
Submitted by Bryn Griffin at: 17:52, 8/06/2000
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Version: 1.95 Problem site URL: http://mini-mail.com
Won't log in
Submitted by J hampshire at: 13:30, 12/06/2000
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Version: 1.95 Problem site URL: http://www.altavista.com
The page displays OK, but entering a search string and pressing 'search' gives an abort on data transfer error.
Submitted by Peter Nelson at: 21:02, 16/06/2000
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Version: 1.95 Problem site URL: http://www.h2g2.com
The Hitch Hikers Guide To The Galaxy, Earth Edition. The initial page seems to work okay but and subsequent pages linked to on that page just open up a save file window.
Submitted by RobSimm at: 11:00, 18/06/2000
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Version: 1.95 Problem site URL: http://www.thetrainline.com
Javascript errors '(" "); unexpected a offset 10235 http://www.thetrainline.com/default.asp?href=file%3A%2F%2F
Submitted by Richard Connett at: 20:36, 6/08/2000
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Version: 1.95 Problem site URL: http://www.richersounds.com
Everything isn't aligned correctly, the graphics are all in roundabout the correct position but not quite. Also the checkout page where you buy your stuff doesn't work.
Submitted by Rob Simm at: 12:44, 13/08/2000
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Version: 1.95 Problem site URL: http://www.iconbar.com
Everytime it loads it up there are always 3 images it fails to load.
Submitted by Rob Simm at: 12:34, 9/09/2000
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Version: 1.97c Problem site URL: http://www.argonet.co.uk/ag99
Although now the buttons light up when you move over them unlike in WXL 1.95 the page now displays worse than in WXL 1.95. The main body of the page is now too far down the page, however the surrounding menu graphics seem to display okay.
Submitted by Rob Simm at: 21:42, 25/12/2000
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Version: 1.97c Problem site URL: http://www.richersounds.com
1.95 used to display the remote control menu correctly but 1.97c now doesn't everything else on the site seems unchanged.
Submitted by Rob Simm at: 23:16, 2/01/2001
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Version: 1.97q Problem site URL: http://www.icmessaging.co.uk
First page is okay but when trying to log-in the fetcher seems to crash/struggle and the machine feeezes so only an alt- break will get it back.This page worked fine on the previous version of webster XL p or f I think.
Submitted by Rob Simm at: 12:09, 25/03/2001
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Version: 1.97q Problem site URL: http://www.cdcovers.cc
Webster crashes out giving a bad time values error
Submitted by Rob Simm at: 23:07, 20/06/2001
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Version: 1.98k Problem site URL: http://www.artexsoft.com
B A bit wierd since this site was fine for (I Think) all previous webster versions. But now loads up player then displays an error message. Upon clicking this webster displays an error and stops loading the page. It seems impossible to get the page to load.
Submitted by Rob Simm at: 15:04, 21/07/2001
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Version: 1.98k Problem site URL: http://www.drobe.co.uk
After the site was re-launched it was initially fine. But it looks like they've added somesort of graphic at the top the the headlines page and now the page is streched out f or miles!
Submitted by Rob Simm at: 20:00, 3/08/2001
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Version: 1.98n Problem site URL: http://www.iop.org
Seems to render the site okay but doesn't load the flash navigation bit. I'm sure it did in earlier versions though.
Submitted by Rob Simm at: 14:29, 9/09/2001
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Version: Problem site URL: http://
i cant find it
Submitted by dick at: 21:56, 27/01/2004
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Version: Problem site URL: http://www.satisnet.com
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Submitted by Satisnet at: 16:55, 29/04/2005
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